What day for new products announcement?

Morning,

hints ... hm ...

It flies.
It's a helicopter.
It's radio controlled.
It's something which doesn't require any r/c experience.
It's something literally everybody who can at least flick a switch or push a button on a transmitter can fly and have fun with.

Come to the event, grab a radio, have a go, no questions asked.

Now have fun guessing more to come between now and the event—obviously

—Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.

> Now have fun guessing more to come between now
> and the event—obviously
>
> —Eddi


I hope this thing is not a coaxial heli?

But if Mikado solved the main current rc heli problem - long and difficult learning cureve by producing new generation of fbl / electronic with anti crash function that is fantastic.



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I think they have put an Mikado sticker on the FW 450

Regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Anders Norlin

Any new update yet ????

Hi,

still putting the finishing touches on what we plan to publish.

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.

Still waiting for the news. Is any info about announce date?

Hi,

the news is, the news will be exclusively published in the oncoming ROTOR magazine.
Until then, we have are under a self-imposed vow of silence

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.

Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> the news is, the news will be exclusively
> published in the oncoming ROTOR magazine.
> Until then, we have are under a self-imposed vow
> of silence
>
> Kind regards
>
> Eddi

Thanks Eddie! Keep waiting! =)

When does the rotor magazine come out ? No hints?

Hi,

it'll be in the July edition, ahead of the Global3D event.

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.

Here's my guess. I think Mikado will use their relationship with OMPHobby to bring a fun heli for raw beginners to their line up. I predict it will be closely based on the OMPHobby 'Heli 101' which is a beginners micro heli that has auto take off and land and altitude hold.. It fits all the hints.

Hallo.
Ich denke auch das eine Vplane überholung mal interessant wäre.
Die Modellprogrammierung von Powerbox ist genial.
Mit einzelnen Funktionen auf ein leeres Blatt zum Komplexen Modell.

Rettung sollte auch dabei sein.

Gruss Daniel

From Facebook:

Over 30 years of innovative products by Mikado Model Helicopters—a new Chapter begins

1994—Mikado LOGO 30
The first electric model helicopter!

2007—Mikado VBar
The first Flybarless-System. Worldwide!

2014—VBar Control radio control system
The first Flybarless-System, programmable from the radio, with built-in telemetry!

2022—on June 13th
A new milestone in model helicopter flying!

Can't wait! Can't wait!



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Jock_rst Wrote:
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> Can't wait! Can't wait!

Given the 'hints' dropped in Eddi's previous post it doesnt really sound like something that is going to appeal to experienced RC heli flyers.

Today is the day!

It seems to be a new simulator..

Is there a web link for it?



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https://www.rotor-magazin.com/magazin/aktuelle-ausgabe/

https://shop.mikado-heli.de/Flight-Trainer.htm?shop=k_mikado&SessionId=&a=catalog&t=1006&c=1006&p=1006

Regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Anders Norlin

Can not understand it I speak English only

Debruhl42 Wrote:
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> Can not understand it I speak English only

Switch to English on the top right at the web page linked above.

Regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Anders Norlin

Thanks

That is quite cool.

Do I understand correctly, it will only aid you in learning upright flying - should you want to proceed to inverted flight, your only aid would be the classic rescue function? The flight zone boundaries cannot work with inverted flight?

Can it only be purchased as a package, or can you pair the base station with your existing Logo 200 and Vcontrol classic/touch?

Is the new VControl Basic only for the flight trainer, or can it be used for regular flying (with other models than the Logo 200) as well?

Flight trainer really nice tech for beginners! Will solve problem with many crashes and disappointment on entry to hobby. Also hope that Mikado will releasing something for intermediate / advanced pilots, something like Neo2

Hi,

for starters, it's meant for learning the basic steps, upright, and tops with bank angles up to 90° in free flight mode.
Things which are difficult enough for total beginners, and things which represent veritable hurdles, even for semi-advanced pilots.
Do backwards figure-eights, sideways figure eights nose in/nose out, or funnels in a confined airspace, where you want the model to be, with a pin or landing pad as the center of the maneuver, not where it goes, and only prevent it from crashing
Then, repeat with your 700 ^^ and use Rescue if needed.

Technically, the technology is not limited to upright.

For starters, it will be sold as a package, hence the 'no prior knowledge required'.
Unpack, charge, fly, grin, have a lift instantly, share, have fun at the barbecue.
This way, we can make sure everybody has a positive experience.
It's not an add-on which has to be configured painfully, calibrated, and where you need to be able to fly just to take it into operation, with uncertainty what to expect.
Still, even after years of testing and honing, letting literally everybody fly who came by, it will be exciting to see what happens 'in the wild'.

For starters, it will be LOGO 200 only. Some common sense: the bigger the model, the more dangerous. I mean, I've seen people walk past me while I was flying, directly toward a 700 hovering inverted, just out of curiosity, almost like, can I touch it? No way we put an assault rifle into layman's hands, when a .22 is dangerous enough.

VBar Control Basic, technically, is a VBar Control and, by definition, can control VBar.
It's classed below the original / classic VBar Control, though, so it has very little in the way of bells and whistles, and the programming and computing power as well as the memory is limited. No biggie, with the brain being the VBar NEO after all.
Still, it can serve as a full heli radio for example, also as an entry ticket into the VBar world, as a buddy or backup radio and the likes.

Exciting times are coming even though the accomplished 3D pilot might feel a bit mellow or even left behind about this particular product ... I'd wish people would be delighted for others who—until now—were reluctant to venture into r/c helis. Or for those who tried and failed and spent money, but who would give it another try if it was calculable.
I sincerely hope we can help enlarging the community again, and stop complaining that it seems to bleed dry.

—Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.

Kudos to Mikado I think this is awesome for the rc heli hobby. You show real progressive thinking here.

Regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Anders Norlin

What is the cost of the package deal?

Hi again,

it's not yet set in stone, calculation's become even more demanding since all kinds of costs are often only quoted on a daily basis.

But I expect it to be a four-digit figure, with heli, radio, landing pad, carrying bag, and each and every one broken in at our factory so we know it works, and so the customer can be confident it works.

Doesn't sound very appealing at first, but on the other hand, as the average rookie pilot, if I take a decent 250 or 450 fbl combo (not suitable for me as a rookie, but nobody tells me, they're all good for beginners!), not the most basic radio because I plan to use it for other models too, (maybe the best choice I made so far), accessories, and I'm in the same ballpark easily.
With a good chance of wrecking the model the first time I spool it up. And the second time. Maybe the third time, because I'm stubborn.
And ... crap, I better chose a more rewarding pastime, see ya, and thank you for nothing.
Kind of been there, done that, got the T-Shirt

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.

Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:
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> Exciting times are coming even though the
> accomplished 3D pilot might feel a bit mellow or
> even left behind about this particular product ...
> I'd wish people would be delighted for others
> who—until now—were reluctant to venture into
> r/c helis. Or for those who tried and failed and
> spent money, but who would give it another try if
> it was calculable.
> I sincerely hope we can help enlarging the
> community again, and stop complaining that it
> seems to bleed dry.

I wouldn't take the moaning seriously, I think there's a bit of disappointment because we've guessing for 6 months, and it turns out it's not actually for us. The product sounds good and I look forward to trying it at HeliFest this weekend.

In terms of the VControl Basic, what will it be able to do? It looks like a small screen, so I'm guessing bind, calibrate, expo and a few flight parameters. I suppose no WiFi, so no logging to the cloud, unless you plug the USB in.

Cheers
Rich

Hi Rich,

it's a Classic, more or less, so you can do setups, adjust parameters, adjust it's internal settings of course.
The radio can display selected vital telemetry values, but of course not all of them, because of the limited screen real estate.
Also, there is no user defined main screen.

The text-based menu is what you are used to, either on the Classic, or even on the control panel (football).
The EDS dial is what you are used to, from the Classic.
Afaik it will also not store log files grand scale, if at all.
No WiFi.

Almost eternal runtime, though, since the reflective LCD does not consume much energy.
This will be the NOKIA 6210 among the radios ^^

Just like your average 6-7-8 CH radio but ... there are no channels, like ... there is no spoon

Size and feel and gimbals from it's siblings, but way lighter.

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.