Tail help logo 700 XXtreme

Hi!
I can’t get the tail good. In tic tocs the tail is kicking left / right and at hard stops (pitch) so I have check the tail and nothing binds and everything run smooth. What is the stock values for logo 700 in the vbar ( silverline) I have raised and lower values so now I don’t remember nothing. I also run vbar gov ( YGE 160 HV ) maby I have to Mutch gov gain? What should I do?

First - essentially needed is that the zero collective point is matching.

Wich VBar Control do you have? Or ist it a 3rd Party radio? V6 control for VBC or a 5.3 for other Radios?

Did you check zero collective with the blade folding method in trim menue and afterwards re-check in setup while collective is center?

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Hi!

I have vbar control not the touch model the first one whit the wheel. And I’m running V6 on it. When I go in to setup the heli so the servos get centered I have the tail slider arm at 90 and I have maby 5 degrees for tailblades ( like in your old setup video ) everything is 90.

Here are some picktures in setup mode.

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When I go in to setup the heli so the servos get centered

Please go to swash trim, then fold main blades 90 deg together, they must be in same level at the tips. If not - adjust with collective trim. This is the "precision" setup for 0 deg.

If this is okay - there is either a too aggressive collective ad for the gov or a too low torque precomp for the tail (if it turns with the torque on a climbout with low tail and gov gain at first movement) - or vice versa. At least the tail could also have not enough thrust (Blades / RPM / Stall or too less throw).

This kind of balancing between gov and tail is described here:

https://www.vstabi.info/en/node/2043

Could you probably add photos like the 2nd one with full deflection on each side?

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Here is 3 pictures. mainblades in setup mode ( hard too see ) but i think this is ok?

On the second one - the deflection against the torque might be e bit too much (stall).

listen to the tail during climb ... probably increase torque precomp and lower tail gain for this. If it sounds "wuusccchhh" ... too much deflection ;-)

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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My vbar governer gain is set to 37 is it to mutch?

Hi,

37 could be on the high side, 30 was default for that configuration iirc.

If you have issues with the tail kicking out, rather adjusting the cyclic and collective torque precompensation (tail) instead of gain, if you have issues with rpm, rather use collective and cyclic add for the governor (instead of gain).

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.

Hi again.

I will try to run YGE governer and delited vbar gov just to se if the tail gets better. I have downloaded the YGE app to vcontroler but when i select YGE esc it downloads but YGE app dosent show in the vcontroler? If it dosent Shows in the meny you have to download the new firmvare to the ESC how do i do that or have i done something right?

@Mini:

Please one heli - one pilot - one thread. Open a new one for your questions, keep the board clean ;-)

In case you are the same person - decide for one account please and start to treat the issues by following our hints first.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/02/2020 11:09PM by RV.

Hi Mini!
I'll be in your town this tuesday.
If you like I can take a look at your heli.

Best regards
Christoffer

www.helistore.se
info@helistore.se