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RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated

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RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 11, 2015 11:36AM
Hello.
In the three flights of the engine was off in flight. I thought that this ESC. In the third flight of the helicopter crash was the 690 logo. The log: RC Input Packets lost RC Failsafe activated. Two days ago, this was not. Maybe this is due to the cold weather, I never flew on NEO cold what to do to fly on this FBL is not possible.

Same problem : http://helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=709986
RV
Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 11, 2015 11:47AM
Please post more informations:

- all event log files of this helicopter (zip them)?
- which motor, esc is used?
- is there a anti static kit built in?
- how was the neo mounted
- which sort of neo?

For "same problem" thoghts:

Please mention that the same effect must not be caused by the same reason - so we have to look at each one seperately.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 11, 2015 12:22PM
Motor : Scorpion 370 KV
ESC : Kontronik 120 PRO
Anti static kit built in : yes.
OPTIPOWER ULTRA Guard 430




Attachments:
open | download - 00903_vbar.zip (553 bytes)
Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 11, 2015 12:33PM
have flown so many times but it was warm This log .no last flight before the flight was off on this cold day
Attachments:
open | download - 00902_vbar.zip (590 bytes)
RV
Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 11, 2015 08:23PM
Quote:
VBar Start -- LOGO 690 -- 10.10.2015 -- 14:13:23
14:13:24;1;Reset Reason: Power On
14:13:25;1;Battery ID detected: B48CBB01
14:13:26;1;Battery by Batt ID: GENS ACE 4400
14:13:28;2;Calibration Finished
14:14:48;1;Motorswitch Motor On
14:15:13;3;High Vibration Level
14:15:21;2;Bank 2 Loaded
14:15:23;4;Extreme Vibration Level
14:15:33;4;Extreme Vibration Level
14:15:43;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:15:45;2;Bailout Start
14:15:46;2;Bailout End
14:15:53;4;Extreme Vibration Level
14:15:58;2;Bank 3 Loaded
14:16:03;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:16:13;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:16:24;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:16:34;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:16:44;3;High Vibration Level
14:16:54;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:17:04;3;High Vibration Level
14:17:14;3;High Vibration Level
14:17:24;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:17:35;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:17:45;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:17:55;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:18:05;3;High Vibration Level
14:18:10;3;RC Input Packets lost
14:18:10;4;RC Failsafe activated
14:18:15;3;High Vibration Level
14:18:25;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:18:35;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:18:45;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:18:55;3;RC Input Packets lost
14:18:55;4;RC Failsafe activated
14:18:55;3;High Vibration Level
14:19:06;3;High Vibration Level
14:19:16;3;High Vibration Level
14:19:35;1;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
14:19:35;1;Motorswitch Motor Off
14:19:36;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:19:46;3;High Vibration Level
14:20:06;2;Bank 1 Loaded
VBar Logfile End -- 10.10.2015 -- 14:22:08


Quote:
VBar Start -- LOGO 690 -- 10.10.2015 -- 14:51:46
14:51:46;1;Reset Reason: Power On
14:51:46;1;Battery ID detected: 6406E501
14:51:47;3;Init Failed, retrying...
14:51:47;1;Battery by Batt ID: DYMOND 4000
14:51:47;1;Battery by Batt ID: DYMOND 4000
14:51:51;2;Calibration Finished
14:52:11;1;Battery ID detected: 6406E501
14:52:12;1;Battery by Batt ID: DYMOND 4000
14:52:12;1;Battery by Batt ID: DYMOND 4000
14:53:43;1;Motorswitch Motor On
14:54:05;2;Raised Vibration Level
14:54:15;4;Extreme Vibration Level
14:54:26;3;High Vibration Level
14:54:36;4;Extreme Vibration Level
14:54:46;3;High Vibration Level
14:54:56;4;Extreme Vibration Level
14:55:06;3;High Vibration Level
14:55:16;4;Extreme Vibration Level
14:55:26;3;High Vibration Level
14:55:36;3;RC Input Packets lost
14:55:36;4;RC Failsafe activated
14:55:36;3;High Vibration Level
14:55:37;1;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
14:55:37;4;Aileron Sensor Value out of Range
14:55:37;4;Elevator Sensor Value out of Range
14:55:38;1;Motorswitch Motor Off
14:55:38;4;Aileron Sensor Value out of Range
14:55:47;4;Extreme Vibration Level
VBar Logfile End -- 10.10.2015 -- 14:56:53


regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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RV
Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 11, 2015 08:26PM
We have lost packets and failsafe in both logs - so the motor has been shutdown twice in the previous flight before your crash happened.

Can you perform a range check with the rest?

Can you also check the antistatic for correct electrical conduction - especially the side screw in the main frame can loose contact if the tail boom may move in flight.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 13, 2015 06:42AM
Thanks Rainer cause of failure has been static.
Now, I will be very attentive.

https://youtu.be/wQO6cqv_S4Q
RV
Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 13, 2015 07:31AM
One tip:

i do the antistatic hookup not through the frame in case of this effect - i use the small screw with the cable just 1 cm behind the frame - from the bottominto the tail boom (where it is safe with the belt inside too).

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
October 13, 2015 08:35AM
I did as it was written in the instructions to the model. Of course, after such an accident I'll change the antistatic mounting kit.
In any case, I am pleased that the problem became clear, and more than my model is not an accident, and I and my friends like helicopters Logo. However, we are now more attentive to the sites and structures model.

Once again, thank Rainer.
Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
December 02, 2017 01:11PM
I think I am having the same issue, same thing happened to me where the motor shut off in prior flights. One flight it came back and I landed, the second I crashed the heli. My log shows exact thing rc packets lost and then failsafe initiated. This is on a trex 470LM belted model. I am using the align cyclic servos with align motor and esc.
RV
Re: RC Input Packets lost . RC Failsafe activated
December 02, 2017 02:36PM
Please open a new thread. We would like to have one user, one heli, one thread because the same effect must not be caused by the same reason.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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