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silverline dead?

Posted by thebirdman 
silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 01:07AM
been having some issues on a GX4 "NX4 gasser" would die after 2 minutes high rpm, Vbar would still be on and active, heli would lite back up after a 10 minute cool down. The last time it would not initialize... So I thought ok found the issue as could be a bad BEC..... Took out bec today and tested on another receiver and works fine, supplied clean voltage to the silverline and nothing?
Seen a couple posts that the sensor could cause this??? both are new units, and have been fighting this "engine" issue off and on for over a year as time/weather permit......really cant see the 2 related....but now the silverline not initializing???
Any thoughts?
tyia
randy
RV
Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 05:12AM
Well - even if the SL does not init - it can be connected to the PC for reading/saving the logfile. Would be nice to know ;-)

Does the sensor LED light up or not?
Is the sensor connected to the right port?
Was there anything else connected to "servo" on the backside next to USB?

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 05:42PM
Hi rv
no the sensor does not lite, eroded on the forum, this has version 6 vcontrol
nothing changed on the connections, was working fine
randy
RV
Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 08:19PM
Quote:
Was there anything else connected to "servo" on the backside next to USB?

Reason - if the electrical conduction (+) was overloaded there - the Stabi won't work ...

test: Use a patch cable, remove orange wire and connect "servo" with e.g. ch4

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 08:51PM
Hi rainer yes servo port has the throttle servo attached, rpm pickup on the sensorrII port
so you want to jump sero to ch4 no signal wire correct?
ty
randy
RV
Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 09:40PM
Yep - like jump starting your car ;-)

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Rainer Vetter

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Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 10:16PM
Have done, nothing ?
RV
Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 10:33PM
OK - have you tried w/o other stuff connected, just the VBar, Sensor and a battery?

if yes and unsucessfully - please create a service request by clicking on the service icon in your devices list.

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Rainer Vetter

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Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 11:10PM
Hi again, everything disconnected except sensor and sat, sensor powers on but get user defined main screen cant be found?
Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 11:17PM
ok disregard the user screen error, had updated the radio today and seams it turned on user screen app.
SL will connect.. guess I will have to start looking at what is causing it?
ty for your time rainer
randy
RV
Re: silverline dead?
September 12, 2016 11:31PM
Yep - connect one item after the other to figure out which disturbs.

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Rainer Vetter

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Re: silverline dead?
September 13, 2016 12:52AM
update, if rpm sensor is connected,and powered on it will not initialize, un-power,disconnect rpm and plug in throttle servo, power up and get several servos start jumping?
disconnect power with throttle servo still connected, reconnect, servos jumping, redo again and will initialize fine?
RV
Re: silverline dead?
September 13, 2016 11:21AM
and what does the event log say?

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Rainer Vetter

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Re: silverline dead?
September 13, 2016 12:53PM
Hi with rpm sensor connected, no log as never initializes
With throttle servo connected,

reset reason: power on
Bank 1 loaded
Gov stop
Gov in motortune mode
calibration finished
" yet servos still jumping"

Power off and on till a clean initialize:
reset reason: power on
Bank 1 loaded
Gov stop
Gov in motortune mode

tkx
randy
Re: silverline dead?
September 18, 2016 09:58PM
Hi rv, just an update....
Gasser actually had 3 issue's, which blows me away...
1) rpm sensor is nfg... not the sensors problem, was an issue with the align fan warping under the heat from the engine,
not sure why there are tonne's of thread's to loose the plastic and go metal ?
Upon dis-assembly I noticed vary faint rub marks on 1/2 of the fan, sensor showed rubbing also
AKA why it ran fine for 2 minutes than shut down. ordered and replaced with a Spartan sensor, and stock plastic fan. all fine with initialization.

2) replaced the gaui throttle servo with a used align servo, that stopped the throttle servo jumping, but did not correct the gaui aileron servo jumping....
3) has to also be an issue with it..... Possibly a bad? batch of gs-511"s ?

Taking out tomorrow to test, spin up under carport was fine after I got the vbar to initialize....smiling smiley

One thing I still don't understand is...
Why when the servos are jumping on initialization.....the log states "calibration complete" ?

And when it initializes with no issues, that is NOT displayed?

Servo problem I assume?

ty again for your effort
randy
RV
Re: silverline dead?
September 18, 2016 11:24PM
Quote:
Why when the servos are jumping on initialization.....the log states "calibration complete" ?



hmm - ok - can you temporaray use one other servo on the swash (other brand/type) to check it isn't a servo related thing?

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Rainer Vetter

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