How to share the Vbar logs

How to share the Vbar logs from Cloud to this Forum
My new heli crashed today after a maiden flight last week

I would to share some data so maybe there are some strange issues

Vbar Neo Evo 0027004457
VBCT 11002803

Last Flight with crash

27.07.2024 14:44:13;VBar Start -- Tron Dnamic -- 0027004457 -- V 7.1 -- pl 72
27.07.2024 14:44:13 Good;Coldstart
27.07.2024 14:44:13 Good;VBackup Device detected
27.07.2024 14:44:13 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:6.1V
27.07.2024 14:44:14 Good;Reset Reason: Power On
27.07.2024 14:44:14 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:44:14 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:44:14 Warn;Init Failed, retrying...
27.07.2024 14:44:17 Info;Calibration Finished
27.07.2024 14:44:18 Good;HW ESC detected
27.07.2024 14:44:21 Good;Top 5 Selection: Maniax 5500Nr2
27.07.2024 14:44:22 Good;VBackup minimum ready, cap:6.5V
27.07.2024 14:44:25 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 14:47:59 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 14:48:05 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:48:10 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:48:11 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 14:48:12 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 14:48:32 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:48:42 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:48:52 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:49:02 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:49:08 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 14:49:08 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:49:13 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:49:45 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 14:49:45 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 14:50:04 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:50:14 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:50:24 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:50:34 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:50:42 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:50:44 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:50:55 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:50:58 Warn;The Cyclic Ring is active
27.07.2024 14:50:59 Warn;HW Overcurrent
27.07.2024 14:50:59 Error;Aileron Sensor Value out of Range
27.07.2024 14:50:59 Error;Elevator Sensor Value out of Range
27.07.2024 14:51:00 Info;Governor Sensor no Signal
27.07.2024 14:51:00 Error;Aileron Sensor Value out of Range
27.07.2024 14:51:01 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:51:01 Info;Off - ESC - Umin:20.9V Imax:120.2A Temp:30?
27.07.2024 14:51:01 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 14:51:01 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:51:02 Info;Governor Stop
27.07.2024 14:51:02 Good;Motorswitch Motor Off
27.07.2024 14:51:05 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:51:09 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 14:51:34;VBar Logfile End -- 27.07.2024 -- 14:51:34
27.07.2024 14:51:34 Good;VBackup Used: 32mAh
27.07.2024 14:51:34 Good;VBackup disconnected
27.07.2024 14:51:34 Good;HW ESC Disconnected

Flight before crash flight

27.07.2024 13:52:11;VBar Start -- Tron Dnamic -- 0027004457 -- V 7.1 -- pl 72
27.07.2024 13:52:11 Good;Coldstart
27.07.2024 13:52:12 Good;VBackup Device detected
27.07.2024 13:52:12 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:0.0V
27.07.2024 13:52:12 Good;Reset Reason: Power On
27.07.2024 13:52:12 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 13:52:14 Info;Calibration Finished
27.07.2024 13:52:17 Good;HW ESC detected
27.07.2024 13:52:19 Good;Top 5 Selection: Maniax 5500Nr1
27.07.2024 13:52:21 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 13:53:18 Good;VBackup minimum ready, cap:6.5V
27.07.2024 13:54:43 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 13:55:01 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 13:55:32 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 13:55:35 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 13:55:37 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 13:55:37 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 13:55:59 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:56:09 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:56:19 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:56:29 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:56:39 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:56:44 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 13:56:50 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:56:59 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 13:57:00 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:57:10 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:57:11 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 13:57:11 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 13:57:13 Info;Governor Stop
27.07.2024 13:57:13 Good;Motorswitch Motor Off
27.07.2024 13:57:13 Info;Off - ESC - Umin:23.6V Imax:85.7A Temp:27?
27.07.2024 13:57:27 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 13:57:49 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 13:57:50 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 13:57:50 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 13:57:50 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 13:58:01 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:58:11 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:58:15 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 13:58:16 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 13:58:19 Info;Governor Stop
27.07.2024 13:58:19 Good;Motorswitch Motor Off
27.07.2024 13:58:19 Info;Off - ESC - Umin:23.7V Imax:47.4A Temp:27?
27.07.2024 13:58:22 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:58:29 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 13:59:01 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 13:59:04 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 13:59:05 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 13:59:05 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 13:59:23 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:59:31 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 13:59:33 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:59:43 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 13:59:49 Info;Bank 3 Loaded
27.07.2024 13:59:53 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:00:04 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:00:14 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:00:16 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:00:24 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 14:00:24 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:00:24 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:00:28 Info;Governor Stop
27.07.2024 14:00:28 Good;Motorswitch Motor Off
27.07.2024 14:00:28 Info;Off - ESC - Umin:22.7V Imax:92.3A Temp:29?
27.07.2024 14:00:34 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:00:38 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 14:00:53 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 14:00:59 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:01:01 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 14:01:01 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 14:01:15 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:01:25 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:01:35 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:01:46 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:01:51 Info;Bank 3 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:01:56 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:02:06 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:02:06 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:02:09 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:02:16 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:02:23 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:02:26 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:02:37 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:02:47 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:02:57 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:03:07 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:03:09 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 14:03:09 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:03:12 Info;Off - ESC - Umin:22.1V Imax:108.6A Temp:32?
27.07.2024 14:03:12 Info;Governor Stop
27.07.2024 14:03:12 Good;Motorswitch Motor Off
27.07.2024 14:03:14 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:03:18 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:03:21 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 14:03:52 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 14:03:54 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:03:55 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 14:03:55 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 14:04:09 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:04:19 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:04:25 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:04:29 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:04:39 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:04:48 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 14:04:49 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:04:49 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:04:56 Info;Off - ESC - Umin:22.3V Imax:48.6A Temp:30?
27.07.2024 14:04:57 Info;Governor Stop
27.07.2024 14:04:57 Good;Motorswitch Motor Off
27.07.2024 14:05:00 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:05:04 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 14:05:11 Info;Bank 3 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:05:19 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:05:20 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:05:28 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:05:29 Good;VBackup Connected, cap:7.1V
27.07.2024 14:05:29 Info;Governor Active
27.07.2024 14:05:30 Good;Motorswitch Motor On
27.07.2024 14:05:51 Info;Raised Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:05:52 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:06:01 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:06:11 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:06:22 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:06:32 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:06:39 Info;Bank 3 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:06:42 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:06:52 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:07:02 Error;Extreme Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:07:13 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:07:16 Info;Governor Idle
27.07.2024 14:07:17 Good;Motorswitch Idle Bailout
27.07.2024 14:07:23 Warn;High Vibration Level
27.07.2024 14:07:24 Info;Governor Stop
27.07.2024 14:07:24 Good;Motorswitch Motor Off
27.07.2024 14:07:24 Info;Off - ESC - Umin:20.8V Imax:152.9A Temp:33?
27.07.2024 14:07:26 Info;Bank 2 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:07:27 Info;Bank 1 Loaded
27.07.2024 14:07:37 Good;VBackup now Standby
27.07.2024 14:08:24;VBar Logfile End -- 27.07.2024 -- 14:08:24
27.07.2024 14:08:25 Good;VBackup Used: 136mAh
27.07.2024 14:08:25 Good;VBackup disconnected
27.07.2024 14:08:25 Good;HW ESC Disconnected

I just looked into the last flight 27.07. 14:44:11. These where 2 short hovers with no much current peaks.
You have speically in the first bank all the time constant "Extreme vibrations". That looks too much imo. In 3D Flight, this may be accepable, but as a hover state its definitly too much. It seems to calm down slightly on bank2.
Something is shaking really heavy. Maybe the VBar is not mounted firmly or something else is loose.
The "Extreme Vibration Level" Message is maximal issued every 10 seconds, so if it appears every 10 sec, the level is permanent!

so long ... Uli
http://www.vstabi.de

Thx Uli,

Is a new Tron Dnamic with just a maiden and 3 flights.
Neo Evo is mounted at the back on FBL plate with rubber dampeners and the original 1 double side Vbar tape

Because this is a new heli and all ball links go a little heavy i think it was not a problem,stiff butt not extreme
Maybe the wires in the Neo are to tight,that couses extra vibration??

Heli spool up normaly in Bank 1 with lower headspeed.
At hoover a litlle vibration (no whobble butt shaking from the main) and do some little small pitch pumps and its over,do i higher climbout and no problem,back in hoover the same vibrations and then over.
This is the same in other banks butt less.butt with higher headspeed,then it are less,butt still there
i think it is a mechanical problem,and Neo reacts on this behavior

I realy dont know what happens butt thanks for watching the file.
I just order the parts and do a rebuild.
Nothing was loose



1 mal bearbeitet. Zuletzt am 28.07.2024 08:45 von JDHDienstverlening.

You have glued a flabby, vibrating Y-antenna holder directly onto the plastic housing of the VBAR and are you wondering why there is a vibration warning?

Gruß Jürgen
( hier noch die fehlenden Kommata zu freien Verwendung in meinen Beiträgen: ,,,,,,,,, )

Thx.
Servo connectors indeed hotglue..not good??
Antenne y connector is mounted with gyro double side Mikado tape,just 2 small piecies.
Not good??

Tonight i did a test with Evo next to heli...and also high vibration..the Evo was not installed in the heli.
So how can you explain this vibrations behavoir??
Motor run in bank 1 and 2.
Servo wires connected
Evo next to the heli

I realy consider to buy the old neo instead off Evo...
Have no problems with neo only with evo.
Have a other evo in other heli and have the same lott warnings.



2 mal bearbeitet. Zuletzt am 28.07.2024 21:48 von JDHDienstverlening.

Is it also a good idea or solution to mounted the evo with 2 on eacharder gyro tape?
mounted on a dampenerd with rubber fbl plate or Just 1 tape
Now its mounted with 1 'small pieces of tape what i normaly always do