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Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.

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Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
08.05.2016 15:26:43
Hi,

I flown Vcopter succesfully now. Using Racing Rabbit setup files for VBar Control given by Thomas Kranz.
I only change Idle setting and gain to 25.

I only have one problem now. During long slow tic toc once I want it to stop >>> The Copter Oscillate on Aileron only (maybe) then cannot catch up then crashes.

Here is my setup.
1. QAV 270mm
2. DYS SE2205 2300KV
3. DYS BLHELI Oneshot 125 XM20A.
4. Lipo 3Cell and most of the time is 4 Cell 1500Mah.

Really appreciate someone can help.

Regards,
Zulkarnain aka joecarnine in forum.


Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
08.05.2016 15:27:24
Another 2 picture.


Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
09.05.2016 08:54:20
Try increasing the I Limit to higer values up to 120.

The "out of control" effect is the lack of I amount in the critical stabilization phase. It may effect the flight feel slightly, so if you dont have the effect at 120, you can decrease the limit back to what works for you.

so long ... Uli
http://www.vstabi.de
Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
09.05.2016 17:50:55
Hi Uli,

OK I will try that tomorrow! Afterworks at the factory where I works, the is a huge field.

What Piro Compensation 'ON' will do on VCopter?? Will it help on piro funnel? But VCopter is already in 'heading hold' on all axis isn't it?

By the way thanks. And credit also goes to "Thomas Kranz" and "Pascal Lipke" who reply my message initially help on setting up VCopter. I like it a lot! and even more now.
Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
09.05.2016 17:52:09
Something wrong with this forum. The Button all in German Language!
RV
Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
09.05.2016 21:03:29
Maybe your own user settings?

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Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
09.05.2016 21:10:40
Yes, it may help on piro funnels, on all patterns with quick tail movements in combination with higher speed.

The effect is, that even an integral which is "heading Hold" does need some deflection to react. This little amount can cause some pertubation in the attitude, when flying faster.

The Piro compensation is rotation this deflection with the tail axis, so it always points in the same direction during piruetting. This keeps the attitude a bit more stable during moving piruettes. The drawback ist, that the CG has to be perfect, and even a trimflight may be needed. Since Copter flyers usually are not that accurate winking smiley the compensation is too much workt to adjust for them, so i disable it by default...

so long ... Uli
http://www.vstabi.de
Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
10.05.2016 16:45:20
ulrich Wrote:
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> Yes, it may help on piro funnels, on all patterns
> with quick tail movements in combination with
> higher speed.
>
> The effect is, that even an integral which is
> "heading Hold" does need some deflection to react.
> This little amount can cause some pertubation in
> the attitude, when flying faster.
>
> The Piro compensation is rotation this deflection
> with the tail axis, so it always points in the
> same direction during piruetting. This keeps the
> attitude a bit more stable during moving
> piruettes. The drawback ist, that the CG has to be
> perfect, and even a trimflight may be needed.
> Since Copter flyers usually are not that accurate
> winking smiley the compensation is too much workt to adjust
> for them, so i disable it by default...

Hi Uli,

I try I to 50 then the copter starts shaking and land.
I lower down until 20 then copter is OK.
Then I lower it back to 17....

Not helping I guess. Any recomendation?

HOw can Pascal Lipke fly like this??? I wonder if I can copy all his equipment and setup!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXfWb4-HBGw
Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
11.05.2016 10:33:14
I told you via Facebook how to do it, or am i wrong? smiling smiley
I can repost it here when iam back home.

Pascal



1 mal bearbeitet. Zuletzt am 11.05.2016 10:33 von Pascal.
Re: Vcopter long slow tic toc problem.
11.05.2016 22:54:48
Saw your setup on Facebook. The problem is the PWM output for Throttle Min, Middle and Max.

I posted a quick tip guide, please take a look there smiling smiley



1 mal bearbeitet. Zuletzt am 11.05.2016 22:55 von Pascal.
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