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VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast

Posted by povern 
VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 18, 2015 01:30AM
I have a bone stock (esc and Motor) logo 800.

Just switched from a ikon to the Vbar control with a Neo.

I set up the Heli using the stock settings from the VControl. Only changed a couple (expo, tail rate, etc) settings in the tail.

Just did the maiden, and when I switched it out of hold, the spool up was violent. It turned the heli 180 degrees.

What settings can I adjust to slow this down?
RV
Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 18, 2015 07:43AM
I have flown my 800 yesterday - and everything was ok with all stock settings.

Is it the "Initial" turns (thing of ESC) - or the Spoolup after VBar takes control?
Do you have access to the old setup?
Which value for motor off was stored there?
Which ramp limit value was stored there?

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 18, 2015 02:14PM
Thanks for the response, unfortunately, I do not have the VBar Settings, I came from the ikon.


Is it the "Initial" turns (thing of ESC) - or the Spoolup after VBar takes control? Hard to tell, the rotor spins about 1-2 turns, then straight to about 1,000 rpm.

Do you have access to the old setup? On the Ikon, yes.

Which value for motor off was stored there? On the ikon?

Which ramp limit value was stored there? on the ikon?

I know that the YGE has settings that are hard coded, but could any of the important ones for this have been changed? Does anyone know what they should be?

Paul
RV
Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 18, 2015 03:06PM
OK - my ESC Setup is according to Video 02 here - and the VBar Setup is stock (Logo 800 XXTreme):

http://vstabi.info/en/node/1491

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 19, 2015 02:42PM
I went though the ESC and reset all parameters, it seems better.

Is there a setting in the NEo or the VControl that will slow it down further?
RV
Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 19, 2015 03:07PM
You can try to cheat a bit with the Ramp Limit (default 3) and set it to 2.

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Rainer Vetter

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Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 20, 2015 08:44PM
Ok lowered the Ramp Limit to two, but still pretty fast.

Any other things I can do?

Thanks

Paul
RV
Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
May 20, 2015 09:59PM
Did you set the motor off / full throttle in the ESC new?
Have you been in the throttle setup panel (to get the stick direct to ESC) while doing this?

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Rainer Vetter

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Re: VControl on xxtreme 800 - Spoolup to fast
June 03, 2015 02:41PM
Hey povern.

The way I set up my YGEs is to attach a progcard. Power up the VControl and the heli. Go into the VControl setup for governor endpoints. Set the endpoints in the VControl to 90% for low endpoint and 100% for high endpoint. Stay in the endpoint menu. Now, make sure the collective stick is on the bottom stop and set the Stop endpoint in the ESC with the progcard. Move the stick to the high position stop and set the Full endpoint in the ESC with the progcard. Return the stick to low. Now change the low endpoint in the VControl to 100%. ( so both gov endpoints are now 100 ). Exit the setup menu and power down the heli and the the VControl, and remove the progcard.

This has resulted in a more acceptable spool up on any of the YGE driven helis I own using the VControl. Good luck.

KevinB
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