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760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?

Posted by OICU812 
760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 15, 2022 05:43PM
I recently seen Ralph in an interview speaking as to a new Vbar NEO due to some electronics shortage but also some comments of the new new being a big upgrade from a hardware perspective.

My question is are there also some firmware updates coming and one of the parts to be able to set 760 pulse for cyclic servos?

I have read of some reasoning to not, however many manufacturers are making servos now to accomodate other FBL systems which do have this feature, even Spirit FBL systems now have it as Futaba CGY 760 system does?

Please let us know what improvements are with the new neo and as well if we can expect some firmware updates soon for existing NEOs and new ones coming. Thanks!
RV
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 15, 2022 05:54PM
Ulirch might answer as soon as the time is ready for this. Consider this was the first test example - and so please expect nothing too early. We have some other stuff to do also - and each one takes its time.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 15, 2022 06:01PM
Ok thanks Rainer I will be watching for details!
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 17, 2022 03:14AM
OICU812 Wrote:
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> I recently seen Ralph in an interview speaking as
> to a new Vbar NEO due to some electronics shortage
> but also some comments of the new new being a big
> upgrade from a hardware perspective.
>
Can you provide link to the Ralph interview?
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 17, 2022 11:35AM
Probably this one. Talks about the hardware changes at 8:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MJo6ELBN9s
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 17, 2022 04:28PM
Hi,

details will follow once we have solid information.
Right now, we're still exploring new limits, with different setups, on different helis.
And even now, test pilots Marik and Alex would have grinned 360° had they no ears grinning smiley
Me as a bystander was like, holy cow!!

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 17, 2022 07:39PM
Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> details will follow once we have solid
> information.
> Right now, we're still exploring new limits, with
> different setups, on different helis.
> And even now, test pilots Marik and Alex would
> have grinned 360° had they no ears grinning smiley
> Me as a bystander was like, holy cow!!
>
> Kind regards
>
> Eddi

Pretty sure will be superb fbl! Can't wait to get one!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/17/2022 07:40PM by Jock_rst.
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 23, 2022 11:54PM
Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> details will follow once we have solid
> information.
> Right now, we're still exploring new limits, with
> different setups, on different helis.
> And even now, test pilots Marik and Alex would
> have grinned 360° had they no ears grinning smiley
> Me as a bystander was like, holy cow!!
>
> Kind regards
>
> Eddi

LOL oh man! Can you elaborate with ANY details as to what these changes, or improvements are that the test pilots are liking?

Better tail performance, cyclic, feel? Anything at all to say ? smiling smiley
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 24, 2022 09:05AM
Hi,

I can try and repeat what Marik said: it was never as easy and quick, to perform certain maneuvers, quicker, even more aggressive, with even less stick inputs, particularly with even less correcting.
And man, it showed.
Even just watching him testing, not doing a routine, his 700 seemed like a different heli, all by itself, but even more so compared back to back.
Both on cyclic and tail.
There still seems to be room for improvement, what this NEO can tickle out of a top-shelf setup is not the limit.
You think you've seen it all, end of the flagpole ... and then, this.
Like, holy cow!!

I can't and won't go into technical details, and it's about the feel after all, what the combination of hardware and software can make out of an overall setup, it's not about numbers.

Best,

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 24, 2022 01:04PM
Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:
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> I can't and won't go into technical details, and
> it's about the feel after all, what the
> combination of hardware and software can make out
> of an overall setup, it's not about numbers.
>


Is expert setting will available for adjustments out of the box? Or like for current Neo - will require to purchase Pro firmware license?
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 24, 2022 01:33PM
Hi,

it's all not yet decided, it's not even set in stone what parameters will be/need to be adjusted.
That's what I mean with, still exploring.

But expect—as always—that Express will give you a good starting point, with all the required settings for a sraigtforward setup, to make a model fly well, while Pro will offer more in-depth settings, unleashing it's full potential.
Pilots will very likely already benefit from the new NEO Express, but even more so with Pro.

—Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 24, 2022 02:20PM
Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> it's all not yet decided, it's not even set in
> stone what parameters will be/need to be
> adjusted.
> That's what I mean with, still exploring.
>


Thanks for the answer. Metal case would be great option from start of sales. Current Neo plastic case is very fragile.
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 24, 2022 02:30PM
Hi,

Will the Vbar NEO mini also come in a new version to reflect these changes in HW (SW)?

Regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Anders Norlin
RV
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 24, 2022 09:15PM
We are talking about a fullsize NEO with the new hardware.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Posting and answering - please use a PC and a standard keyboard. Answer all questions fully, take the needed time, don't forget probably requested attachments.

Für Posts und Antworten bitte einen PC und eine richtige Taststaur benutzen sowie alle Fragen vollständig abarbeiten. Nehmt Euch Zeit, beantwortet Rückfragen in Ruhe und vollständig.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
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Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 28, 2022 07:51AM
Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Hi,
>
> I can try and repeat what Marik said: it was never
> as easy and quick, to perform certain maneuvers,
> quicker, even more aggressive, with even less
> stick inputs, particularly with even less
> correcting.
> And man, it showed.
> Even just watching him testing, not doing a
> routine, his 700 seemed like a different heli, all
> by itself, but even more so compared back to
> back.
> Both on cyclic and tail.
> There still seems to be room for improvement, what
> this NEO can tickle out of a top-shelf setup is
> not the limit.
> You think you've seen it all, end of the flagpole
> ... and then, this.
> Like, holy cow!!
>
> I can't and won't go into technical details, and
> it's about the feel after all, what the
> combination of hardware and software can make out
> of an overall setup, it's not about numbers.
>
> Best,
>
> Eddi


Most excited I’ve been for a Mikado product for awhile now. You may have stopped me from trying the futaba forbidden fruit here. I’ll be awaiting this new Neo salivating for a add to cart option. Hoping before snow falls here in Canada!!! smiling smiley
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
August 28, 2022 09:05PM
Is Neo 2 will support TALY feature?
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
September 07, 2022 03:19PM
Is any news / release date about upcoming new Neo (Neo 2)?
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
October 11, 2022 08:28AM
Hi Guys any update with a release date ? I was watching the interview linked above and he says it will be released in two months from the date of the interview. That is very soon now !!
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
October 11, 2022 08:46AM
Hi,

no news yet. You'll notice when it comes available smiling smiley until then, good things take time.

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
November 21, 2022 06:47PM
We expecting any announcements soon in December? Christmas is near!
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
November 22, 2022 06:39AM
Well.... seen the announcement on RC Heli Hangout on facebook from Mikado USA!!

Here is to hoping the new Evo FBL unit it out before new years and that you seriously consider the 760us/560hz option for the swashplate! I know you do not feel it is necessary, however it is something people want to try and have ability for themselves I can tell you this with certainty.

I am certain this new Evo tech for the tx and the fbl unit allow it so please do consider this if you have not.

Excited to try the new goods once they are available! smiling smiley
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
November 22, 2022 10:04AM
We have, but we dont stop there smiling smiley

so long ... Uli
http://www.vstabi.de
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
November 24, 2022 02:35AM
I see you have a live discussion event, this is excellent. Sadly it is on a day and time I am unable to partake in your reveal and discussion on the new Evo tech.

So question is, will you be recording this and have a link for viewers to watch and review later?

Please record if you can as I want to really learn more, thanks!!!!!
Re: 760 pulse option on cyclic servos? New NEO?
November 24, 2022 08:54AM
Hi,

like with past events, I suppose there will be a recording on vtube, available some time after the event.

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
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