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Vbar lagging after initiliazing

Posted by Dboi80 
Vbar lagging after initiliazing
April 28, 2019 09:14PM
Hi I have a strange problem.
I have a nitro trex 700.
After initializing the swash lags behind the stick inputs. example: I give full pitch, the swash moves a little, then pauses before it goes up. This doesn`t happen all the time and appears to be happening when it has been powered off for a while. the pauses are short but comes again and again for a little while and then it becomes normal. Sometimes it pauses one time, sometimes up to ten times.
I have checked all wires and haven`t found anything helse wrong. At the field today it also lost connection to the vcontrol, but came back. I saw on the screen that it said connecting.
At the bench, if i connect multiple times it doesn`t appear.
I`am a little worried to fly this.

Blueline vbar
v control
gryphon regulator on 2s 7,4 regulated
align 615 servoes.

I have flown this for a long time but never had this issue before. I know there could be some issues with align servoes but can it make this happen?
Is it safe to fly when the delays are gone?
RV
Re: Vbar lagging after initiliazing
April 28, 2019 11:02PM
Could you please attach the event log from the VBC and this unit? Just copy the whole folder for this Vbar on the VBC and zip/attach here.

Please don't fly unless we have solved it.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: Vbar lagging after initiliazing
April 29, 2019 09:23PM
Ok, How do I get the files out from the vbar control?
Re: Vbar lagging after initiliazing
April 29, 2019 09:58PM
See if you can read these files. I`am a complete noob an mac and didn`manage to install the software on my windows 10 machine.
Attachments:
open | download - Arkiv.zip (18.7 KB)
RV
Re: Vbar lagging after initiliazing
April 30, 2019 10:06AM
Hello,

the files seem to be the right ones - could you please tell me which file is the one with the "disconnect" - i can't see any. They are all finished correctly.

Note that the "Disconnect" is only the Telemetry which could not have been received for a certain time. The connection to the model itself seem not to be affected.

But - in one log i found a warmstart (00274_vbar.log) and a sensor disconnect - unfortunately w/o any hint. Might have been a bench test with a short power cycle.

Please do these things:

- name the flight and time where the "disconnect" happened.
- do a range check, attach screenshots of the antenna status panel
- check servo movements in setup mode, do a pitch pump check

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: Vbar lagging after initiliazing
May 02, 2019 09:39PM
Hi again Rainer.

It may have been only the telemetry that have disconnected. I saw a bar on the vcontrol wich loaded after. Not really sure here.
It hasn`t been flown like this. I saw that the swash was lagging so I didn`t try to fly it. This is entry from 28.04.2019. All of these entry`s are testing on the bench.

It seems that when it has had Power the lagging goes away. If I wait a day or two, then it lags after Power up and initilazing, but becomes normal after 10-20 sec. If I switch on and off after that, it doesn`t lagg.

Can it be a regulator problem?
I have done Pitch pump testing With PP at max. No problem. Also no problem in setup mode.

See Attached rangecheck pictures



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/02/2019 09:40PM by Dboi80.


RV
Re: Vbar lagging after initiliazing
May 02, 2019 10:08PM
Quote:
It seems that when it has had Power the lagging goes away. If I wait a day or two, then it lags after Power up and initilazing, but becomes normal after 10-20 sec. If I switch on and off after that, it doesn`t lagg.

Can it be a regulator problem?

Okay - first - all shots etc. look well. You have HV servos? I personally don't use any regulator in between for them, maybe worth a try to connect the 2s directly to the VBar with 2 or 3 servo cables as i do.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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