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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi again,<br />
<br />
you can see if it is Multi Region, directly on the screen (see attachment), with the tiny signal strength graphics there (not functional, just pixels).<br />
<br />
Or in Settings / Transmitter, if so, there's a signal strength icon where you can select between the options (and read up on them, too (?)).<br />
<br />
Transmitters purchased at Mikado USA or Mikado USA could have them by default already.<br />
<br />
VBar Control will push out data into the cloud if there are new data (not yet archived), and if it's idling (no model connected) and on a WiFi, with Online Service (x) enabled.<br />
<br />
Just check your cloud, Setups, if the latest (by name and date/time stamp) are there, usually in a couple of seconds.<br />
<br />
Best,<br />
<br />
Eddi]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Eddi E. aus G.</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 10:08:07 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Sorry, I misstated that. Either transmitter will do that once the buddy is connected.<br />
<br />
The jittering happens on all control surfaces, but here is how I had them configured:<br />
<br />
M ESC - Turbine throttle<br />
M Tail - Rudder servo<br />
M Ch1 - Elev L<br />
M Ch2 - Elev R<br />
M Ch3 - Ail L<br />
M Ch4 - Ail R<br />
M Aux2 - -<br />
M Aux3 - E Aux 3<br />
<br />
E ESC - -<br />
E Tail - -<br />
E Ch1 - Flap L<br />
E Ch2 - Flap R<br />
E Ch3 - Retract<br />
E Ch4 - Brakes<br />
E Aux2 - -<br />
E Aux3 - M Aux 3<br />
<br />
As far as I know, none of them are multi region. They were all US purchased, so whatever Mikado USA sells.<br />
<br />
Question, to trigger an update to the VBC-t Cloud, does the model need to be connected? Any other things that need to be done?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nem3_2</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2026 02:07:19 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hm, weird, still.<br />
<br />
If you apply the same amount of elevator from the master transmitter, it doesn't jitter, right?<br />
<br />
Can you please check if the latest setup and macrocell setup is saved to your transmitter, so I can load those from the cloud, and load them onto a pair of VBar EVOs here? To which physical port is that control surface connected exactly?<br />
<br />
Then, I can test and even check the signal output with an oscilloscope, and see.<br />
<br />
What radio modules are in use, on both transmitters, and with which settings (if the multi region was in one or both of them)?<br />
<br />
Best,<br />
<br />
Eddi]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Eddi E. aus G.</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 09:14:01 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Eddie, <br />
<br />
I do apologize for my late response. To answer you're questions first - <br />
<br />
Rates: yes, I adjusted everything as much as I mechanically could. Rates are higher, but still not were I'd like them. I do understand what you mean, but also, these are 4096 servos. While I think I could tell the step difference between the 29% and 80%, that's not exactly the jittering I was seeing.<br />
<br />
Manual setup/Macrocells: Yah, I did start off with one of the default setups, but it was fairy limited for what I needed just for control surfaces. After I got that all working I had a little more fun with stuff like nose gear steering only working when the gear was down.<br />
<br />
Jittering: I shared this video with Peter, let me know if the link doesn't work for you - <a target="_top" rel="nofollow"  href="https://share.icloud.com/photos/007eWEK32-EIxk-kLm_5XLLPA">https://share.icloud.com/photos/007eWEK32-EIxk-kLm_5XLLPA</a><br />
<br />
That is with the buddy switch activated and just pulling a little elevator. When you let go, the surface returns to center, jittering only slightly.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nem3_2</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2026 08:06:58 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Best Vbar redundancy setup for larger jet plane</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Very good Vinger,<br />
<br />
Seems easy and redundant setup with Mikado without use of Powerbox system. Mikado has it all.<br />
Would be very interresting seeing your macrocell setup.<br />
<br />
And as Rainer explains regarding voltage. Its very interresting calculation favouring 12v systrem for less drain.<br />
<br />
Thank you both for very good contributions.<br />
<br />
Best<br />
Alexander<br />
<br />
<br />
Vinger schrieb:<br />
-------------------------------------------------------<br />
&gt; Hi<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; I have done and flown many jet aircraft for<br />
&gt; customers with only two Neos or two Evos. Works<br />
&gt; perfectly as long as you route the antennae<br />
&gt; properly ie away from other electronics and at 90<br />
&gt; degrees per Neo/Evo. Use two 2S Lipos connected to<br />
&gt; the Vbars with no backups but never tried the<br />
&gt; VBackup on Vplane but it might be a consideration.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; You are welcome to contact me for some macrocell<br />
&gt; examples. <br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Regards<br />
&gt; Peter<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Raiiner schrieb:<br />
-------------------------------------------------------<br />
I would not use 6V Servos anymore. Also converted all my models to 12V last year. I recommend 8V types as minimum from todays point of view.<br />
<br />
It is simple math - if you have a servo with the same output power (U*I), e.g. 30 Watt it takes:<br />
<br />
- at 6V 30W/6V = 5A<br />
- at 8V 30W/8C = 3.75A<br />
- at 12V 30W/12V = 2.5A<br />
<br />
So - also consider having 1Volt drop at 6V from BEC/Battery to the servo you will loose 17% of Power, at 8V 13% and at 12V only 8%.<br />
<br />
So - having the same load / sheet data - the higher the voltage, the less current and the less effect of a voltage drop we have.<br />
<br />
regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)<br />
<br />
Rainer Vetter]]></description>
            <dc:creator>AlexanderSH</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 23:28:04 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Best Vbar redundancy setup for larger jet plane</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ I would not use 6V Servos anymore. Also converted all my models to 12V last year. I recommend 8V types as minimum from todays point of view.<br />
<br />
It is simple math - if you have a servo with the same output power (U*I), e.g. 30 Watt it takes:<br />
<br />
- at 6V 30W/6V = 5A<br />
- at 8V 30W/8C = 3.75A<br />
- at 12V 30W/12V = 2.5A<br />
<br />
So - also consider having 1Volt drop at 6V from BEC/Battery to the servo  you will loose 17% of Power, at 8V 13% and at 12V only 8%.<br />
<br />
So - having the same load / sheet data - the higher the voltage, the less current and the less effect of a voltage drop we have.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 16:46:26 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Best Vbar redundancy setup for larger jet plane</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi<br />
<br />
I have done and flown many jet aircraft for customers with only two Neos or two Evos. Works perfectly as long as you route the antennae properly ie away from other electronics and at 90 degrees per Neo/Evo. Use two 2S Lipos connected to the Vbars with no backups but never tried the VBackup on Vplane but it might be a consideration. <br />
<br />
You are welcome to contact me for some macrocell examples. <br />
<br />
Regards<br />
Peter]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Vinger</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 15:57:36 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Best Vbar redundancy setup for larger jet plane</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Rainer,<br />
<br />
Thx for your qiuck and proper reply.<br />
<br />
No. The P100 has no generator. But have sent Jetcat a question about that.<br />
The ECU is V.12. Planning for 6V servos from KST. X20-3005.<br />
<br />
Yes. Seems like a clean double Mikado set up will do since the backup buffers makes good redundancy.<br />
Must read me up on &quot;fast caps and diodes&quot;.<br />
<br />
Could also be interesting with a set up recommendation from the Mikado people.<br />
<br />
Regards<br />
Alexander]]></description>
            <dc:creator>AlexanderSH</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2026 09:55:04 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Best Vbar redundancy setup for larger jet plane</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Well - i would recommend not to have those powerboxes and 2 batteries ...<br />
<br />
Does the JetCat Turbine have the integrated Alternator like mine on the Heli?<br />
Is it capable (ECU) for 12V? (V12 is, V6 not)?<br />
Are 12V servos installed?<br />
<br />
I would do a simple solution with 2 VBar EVO (probably a RX Sat added to them if you would like 6 Antannas in the model), 2 100F Mikado Backup Buffers, some fast caps in addition and some Diodes on a plug instead any switch - so at least one large 3s lipo battery only.<br />
<br />
Just like here on my Huey:<br />
<br />
<a target="_top" rel="nofollow"  href="https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?10,172594,page=8">https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?10,172594,page=8</a><br />
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            <dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
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            <title>Best Vbar redundancy setup for larger jet plane</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi,<br />
<br />
Im looking for suggestions for the best Vbar redundancy setup for a larger jet plane.<br />
It will be a 2,2m span airplane with 10 servos and a Jetcat engine.<br />
<br />
Alt1:<br />
Using a Vbar Evo with Remote-Antenna, Satellite-Receiver for VBar EVO and backup battery Power Backup Max.<br />
Using the Evo gyro for stabilization.<br />
An easy setup. But is it safe?<br />
<br />
Alt2: <br />
Powerbox system with two Neo´s, powerbox gyro and two battery setup. <br />
Or 1 Evo with gyro output and Neo / Evo for redundancy. (Two Evo´s, Two Neo´s, One Evo and one satelitte receiver?)<br />
Is it compatible? <br />
<br />
Anyone with experience from such setup.<br />
Any suggestions are very welcome.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>AlexanderSH</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2026 22:56:50 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi,<br />
<br />
thanks for the heads-up.<br />
<br />
I took the time to compare the last two setups you saved, and the macrocell setups.<br />
<br />
One thing I didn't comment on the last time is, you seem to have gone full-manual, with the programming.<br />
Of course you can do that, and the result is probably similar if not the same, using unchanged FC as inputs (w/stabilization), but I guess starting with the regular Model Setup and only linking in extra control surfaces could or would make things easier.<br />
<br />
Says one who never got beyond four-flap electric gliders :D but who's helped quite a lot of pilots already.<br />
So, just an observation.<br />
<br />
But what meets my eye today is, in an earlier setup you have quite narrow servo travels, like in the 29-34 range for Elev L+R, 45-45 for Ail L+R.<br />
In your latest setup, it's in the 89-100 range for elevator, and 100/100 for aileron.<br />
Did you make any mechanical changes? If so, they are for the way better I guess, they leave the servos room to work, and help with precision/resolution.<br />
<br />
With the narrow limitation, smallest corrections have a huge impact on the control surface deflection (_very simplified_, like, having 29+34=63 steps resolution vs. 89+93=182).<br />
This alone could show as a somewhat erratic 'jitter', on the ground, probably also explain the buddy boxing thing where things work a little differently, and it could also explain why the heading hold is running in circles (more like hexagons, octagons, too little points to draw a more rounded circle, figuratively speaking :)).<br />
<br />
Maybe it's a Jet thing, flying only with small control surface deflections, and getting there with limiting the servo travel instead of getting it right mechanically, and maybe that's why they (have to?) omit heading hold.<br />
<br />
Just a mental game, rather a hypothesis than a theory :)<br />
<br />
—Eddi]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Eddi E. aus G.</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2026 10:08:41 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Update on the “weirdness” I zeroed out the Integral Range on all three and no longer getting any weird tendencies. Talking with the jet guys, learning that no one flies with heading hold. ¯\_(?)_/¯]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nem3_2</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 00:00:01 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Nick,<br />
<br />
1b: ... hard to tell, I'm _so_ out of my depth here :)<br />
<br />
2: yeah, I figured already. Peter came back to me already, asking your same questions ^^<br />
<br />
I have now taken Uli in the loop so he can check if he can identify the issue (probably similar to remote antenna, both use the Extender bus to add antenna diversity after all), and hopefully fix it quickly<br />
<br />
Best,<br />
<br />
Eddi]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Eddi E. aus G.</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2026 10:28:57 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Eddie, thanks again.<br />
<br />
Weirdness - I can say this is one of the more complicated VPlane setup's I have done. So config might be an issue. It's just weird that the odd flight characteristics don't start immediately. It takes 30-60 before the plane will start flying what feels like, uncontrollably.<br />
<br />
1b: I argue it actually might. Since D gain is not adjustable from the radio, is it possible there is an issue with that part of the control algo?<br />
<br />
2: Sorry, no remote antenna in use here. But I also have a ticket open with MikadoUSA and chatting with Peter.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nem3_2</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2026 10:21:16 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
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            <description><![CDATA[ Hi Nick,<br />
<br />
weird. <br />
<br />
I'd say, VPlane is the same, no matter if on a park flyer, sailplane, EDF Jet, or a turbine.<br />
So whatever weird things you experience lie with that particular setup/configuration, or with the working conditions on that particular plane.<br />
Quite broadly defined, granted.<br />
<br />
1b sounds like we're getting somewhere, but it does not explain 1 and 1a, just that something must be different now, was different before.<br />
<br />
2 ... there is one known bug with buddy boxing, with EVO: when using it with our <a target="_top" rel="nofollow"  href="https://shop.mikado-heli.de/VBar-VStabi-Electronics/VBar-Control-Accessories/Telemetry/Remote-Antenna-Satellite-Receiver-for-VBar-EVO.htm?shop=k_mikado_e&amp;a=article&amp;ProdNr=05670&amp;p=8315">remote antenna</a>, what you're experiencing would unfortunately be normal. And it would require sending in that item for us to update it, or have it replaced for a quicker turnaround. For whatever reason, buddy boxing with remote antenna wasn't tested properly or with the final versions :-/ but fortunately you notice immediately when you set up, there's no hidden surprise which hits you at the worst moment.<br />
But I shouldn't think it's a thing with two VBar EVO VLink ... still I'd have to try, my only available Interbus Setup right here right how is still NEO/NEO.<br />
<br />
3. I hear you. We are still looking for someone like Rainer (RV), who burns for the thing and wants to bring it forward, who has a good grasp on all the particularities with planes but is open to blazing a new trail, not just into mimicking all the old ways, good or bad. <br />
In the meantime, and to be completely honest, we can only do so much, als natural born heli people :)<br />
Kyle Dahl, back in his days as a competition and show pilot, did some videos on fine-tuning VPlane, and I guess he and particularly his father in law together might still have some of the best hands-on experience with flying VPlane on Jets (also thrust vector), and they speak the language.<br />
Maybe a good idea to connect with Kyle or Georges van Gansen, one or another way?<br />
<br />
4. something Rainer and/or Uli must have a look at, I guess, who can look behind the curtain and most likely see more.<br />
<br />
—Eddi]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Eddi E. aus G.</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2026 11:32:25 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Turbine setup on Vplane Questions</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210700,211082#msg-211082</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Eddi E. aus G. Wrote:<br />
-------------------------------------------------------<br />
&gt; Hi Nick,<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; looks OK, particularly the macrocell setup has all<br />
&gt; the names, I guess. See vstabi.info/cloud where<br />
&gt; you can already view some of the setup files<br />
&gt; online, in table form.<br />
&gt; Can't tell why those names should show or<br />
&gt; disappear randomly, maybe Rainer has an<br />
&gt; explanation.<br />
&gt; A guess would be, the transmitter needs a minute<br />
&gt; to parse the name file, and sometimes it's ready<br />
&gt; when you need it, sometimes not yet, and then the<br />
&gt; parsing is maybe interrupted.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Throws, well, is something I notice frequently ...<br />
&gt; short horns make for a sleek and less breakable<br />
&gt; layout, but there are mechanical and spatial<br />
&gt; limitations, and then there are lever principles<br />
&gt; :)<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Manual, if you find something missing or<br />
&gt; incomprehensible in the online help (?), please<br />
&gt; feel free to list it. <br />
&gt; VPlane is unfortunately still a stepchild with<br />
&gt; some regards :-/<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; Modify Config, copy.<br />
&gt; <br />
&gt; —Eddi<br />
<br />
Thanks Eddi, and sorry for the very late reply. Have been going back and forth trying to resolve a bunch VPlane/Vcontrol oddities. I've opened a ticket with MikadoUSA as well. Happy to open separate threads about this, but all seems related to Vplane or Vplane setup requirements so here goes. I'll list the full setup, in case I haven't previously. Airframe is an Elite Aerosports Viper Sport V2, Kingtech 102G5, Dual Vbar Evo's (1 Master, 1 Extender), Xpert MM-3301's (Elevator and nose steering), Xpert AS8601 (Ailerons, Flaps, Rudder). Radio is VControl Touch Evo.<br />
<br />
Also, small back story if it helps, I have flown VPlane on a number of different types/styles of planes in the past, including small EDF jets. Everything I am experiencing with the system now makes the Vbar system look VERY buggy at best, which is the complete opposite of everything I have experienced before.<br />
<br />
<strong class="bbcode">1:</strong> Since the maiden flight, I have been fighting with VERY odd flight characteristics with the gyro enabled (default settings). The odd thing is it is NOT an immediate problem. A derivative gain error seems to build up and then the whole plane starts feeling mushy and uncontrollable. Elevator starts bobbing up and down, aileron just kind of makes the wings rock back and forth. As soon as I switch back to Bank 1 (zero gyro) everything resolves and the plane flies fine. You can even see it just settle. <br />
<br />
<strong class="bbcode">1a:</strong> In my first two outings I tried removing head hold by lowering the Integral gain to zero. This seems to almost completely remove any gyro correction, proportional and integral. Very odd behavior if it's supposed to only affect head hold gain.<br />
<br />
<strong class="bbcode">1b:</strong> Today, 2 flights, first flight was reverted to default Vplane settings. Noticed the same exact issue when the gyro is on. So before the second flight rather than lowering the Integral Gain, I zero'd out the Integral Range. This, and this alone did exactly what I was looking for, stops the head hold portion but leaves the proportional untouched. Finally was able to get a nice and predictable flight in. No elevator bobbing, no weird aileron.<br />
<br />
<strong class="bbcode">2:</strong> Due to the huge variety of settings that need to be adjusted and the nature of flying a turbine jet, I had an idea of grabbing a second hand VControl that I could use for buddy boxing. Idea was let the buddy fly the plane while I was tuning parameters on the master. Well, buddy boxing is completely non-functional with this setup. I am leaning towards it having something to do with the dual Vbar Evo's. I have tried buddy boxing with everything from a VControl Classic (the one I bought second hand) all the way to a matching VControl Evo. In every case, as soon as you power on the model, the servos just start jittering. Any control movement just results in larger jitters. As soon as you exit buddy mode on the slave radio, the model returns to normal.<br />
<br />
<strong class="bbcode">3:</strong> VPlane manual/explanations - Honestly I think the biggest problem is a combination of the language translation barrier and the small adoption of VPlane. There just aren't enough people flying it outside of default settings. Consequently, when I'm trying to resolve an issue there isn't much to research against. That said, and as I said above, for the most part, default VPlane settings have almost always worked very well out of the box. I seem to have stumbled upon the instance where that is not the case.<br />
<br />
<strong class="bbcode">4:</strong> Macrocell names - Yah, this is a very odd one, because when the names do NOT show up, they never seem to come back unless I power off everything and reinitialize. Even then, it's hit or miss if they come up.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>nem3_2</dc:creator>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210998#msg-210998</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Es lag an der Kalibrierung des Gasknüppels. Nun funktioniert alles einwandfrei!<br />
Vielen Dank für eure Hilfe.<br />
Grüsse<br />
Raphael]]></description>
            <dc:creator>sonorsonic</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210996#msg-210996</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Bitte prüfe mal Deine Knüppelkalibrierung ... und kalibriere alle Sticks nach, insbesondere Pitch. Ich wette der zeigt schon -100% an bevor er ganz unten ist ;-)]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 21:25:29 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210995#msg-210995</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ @Rainer Ich meinte die VBar Control. Ich habe eine Touch und die Daten bereits hochgeladen. Die Seriennummer lautet: 11002171.<br />
<br />
@Aaron Bei mir sind die gleichen Einstellungen wie auf deinen Fotos. Die Werte schalten ebenfalls so durch: -18, -48, -68. Sie werden allerdings erst angezeigt, wenn ich den Gasknüppel nach oben schiebe, unabhängig davon, in welcher Bank ich mich befinde. Die Werte werden jedoch für jede Bank korrekt angezeigt.<br />
<br />
Der Motor läuft jedoch nicht an, wenn sich der Gasknüppel in der untersten Stellung befindet.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>sonorsonic</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:59:52 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210994#msg-210994</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hallo Raphael,<br />
<br />
wie Rainer schon vermutet passt da irgendwas nicht.<br />
Ich habe gerade eben nochmal das aktuelle Setup geladen. Es funktioniert alles einwandfrei bei mir.<br />
<br />
Bitte schau mal in die Modell Motor Einstellungen sowie in die Makrozelle 13. Diese steuert den Gaskanal an und sollte ,,aus der Box“ folgende Fixwerte haben: -18% auf Bank 1, -48% Bank 2 und -68% Bank 3.(Bei S.Bus ist der Gaskanal reversiert)<br />
<br />
Anbei ein Bild zum Vergleich. So sollte es nach dem Laden des Setups aussehen.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Aaronheli</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 17:18:51 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210993#msg-210993</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Bitte beachten, da schleicht sich ein Begriffsfehler ein der immer wieder zu Verwechslungen füht:<br />
<br />
VBar (EN) = VStabi (DE) = Flugregelsystem für Helis<br />
<strong class="bbcode">VBar Control</strong> (classic, touch, EVO, Basic), Kurzform VBC = Sender von Mikado<br />
<br />
Ich denke Du meinst die VBar Control.<br />
<br />
Speichere bitte sowohl Modell- als auch MC Setup auf der VBC und warte bis sie &quot;abgeclouded&quot; hat. Sprich bis Du das in Deiner Cloud siehst.<br />
<br />
Dann sag mir die SN Deiner VBC hier - und ich schaus mir mal an.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 15:03:56 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210992#msg-210992</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hallo Rainer,<br />
ja, die Makrozellen-App war schon geladen. Ich hatte sie zuvor bereits auf der VBar.<br />
Grüsse<br />
Raphael]]></description>
            <dc:creator>sonorsonic</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 12:55:58 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210991#msg-210991</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Raphael,<br />
<br />
irgendwas ist da prinzipiell nicht ok mit Deinem Setup. Ist denn die Makrozellen App geladen worden bevor (!!!) das Setup draufgespielt wurde?]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 11:24:23 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210990#msg-210990</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hallo Aaron,<br />
<br />
nach weiteren Tests habe ich Folgendes herausgefunden:<br />
<br />
Egal, ob ich die Funktion „Software Throttle“ aktiviere oder nicht – solange der Gasknüppel ganz unten ist, dreht der Motor nicht an, unabhängig davon, in welcher Bank ich bin.<br />
<br />
Wenn ich den Gasknüppel dann nach oben bewege, dreht der Motor langsam auf eine entsprechende Drehzahl hoch. Wenn ich den Knüppel z. B. in der Mitte habe und die Bank wechsle, schaltet er auch auf eine andere Drehzahl um. Das scheint also grundsätzlich zu funktionieren.<br />
<br />
Das Problem ist lediglich, dass der Motor bei ganz unten stehender Gasknüppelposition nicht dreht. Pitch funktioniert hingegen ganz normal.<br />
<br />
Es wäre natürlich schön, wenn das Ding beim Geben von Minus-Pitch nicht gleich abstellt. ;)<br />
<br />
Zur Einordnung: Ich habe das System bereits mit einer Radiomaster-, FrSky- und Spektrum-Anlage betrieben (ich arbeite in einem Modellbaugeschäft und wollte die verschiedenen Systeme einmal kennenlernen). Damit flog der Heli jeweils einwandfrei. Deshalb vermute ich eher nicht, dass das Problem am Heli selbst liegt.<br />
<br />
Grüsse<br />
Raphael]]></description>
            <dc:creator>sonorsonic</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2026 09:06:40 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210986#msg-210986</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hallo Raphael,<br />
<br />
das ist tatsächlich komisch. OFS3 ist nicht gemacht, um mit linearem Gaskanal zu fliegen. Das sollte eigentlich gar nicht funktionieren.<br />
Kannst du in der OFS3 App mal bitte die Funktion Software Throttle aktivieren? Damit werden in der App festgelegte Drehzahlen angesteuert.<br />
<br />
Wie verhält es sich damit?<br />
<br />
Grüße Aaron]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Aaronheli</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 23:08:00 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>OMP M2 V3 Pro + Empfänger 05680 – Governor/Drehzahlregelung funktioniert nicht</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210980,210980#msg-210980</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hallo zusammen,<br />
<br />
ich versuche, einen OMP M2 V3 Pro mit dem Empfänger 05680 und VBar Touch zu betreiben.<br />
<br />
Folgende Schritte habe ich bereits durchgeführt:<br />
<br />
- Alles gemäß dem Anleitungsvideo angeschlossen und eingerichtet.<br />
- VBar Touch auf den aktuellen Stand gebracht.<br />
- Die Firmware M2V3Pro.015.20.fw auf den Heli geladen.<br />
- Das passende Setup mehrfach aus der VBar geladen und die Einrichtung mehrmals komplett neu durchgeführt.<br />
<br />
Mein Problem:<br />
<br />
Das Gas wird weiterhin direkt über den Gasknüppel von 0 bis 100 % gesteuert. Statt einer festen Kopfdrehzahl verhält sich das System wie im normalen Gasmodus.<br />
<br />
Unabhängig davon, ob ich Bank 1, 2 oder 3 auswähle, läuft der Motor nicht automatisch auf die hinterlegte Drehzahl hoch. Die in den einzelnen Bänken eingestellten Drehzahlen werden offenbar nicht übernommen.<br />
<br />
Hat jemand eine Idee, woran das liegen könnte oder welche Einstellung ich möglicherweise übersehen habe?<br />
<br />
Vielen Dank für eure Unterstützung.<br />
<br />
Freundliche Grüße<br />
Raphael]]></description>
            <dc:creator>sonorsonic</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 15:40:20 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Hilfe beim Einrichten OMP Hobby M1 V3 pro mit  VLink s.bus Empfänger für Micro Helis</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210876,210898#msg-210898</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Danke Reiner für das weiterleiten! <br />
<br />
@Aaron:<br />
Vielen Dank für deine Hilfe. Es hat jetzt doch geklappt. Dein sehr gut gemachtes Video kannte ich und habe es auch schon vorher damit versucht. Der Unterschied war folgender:<br />
Da es für mich das erste Modell auf meiner neuen VBar war habe ich es nicht über die von dir im Video erklärte Funktion &quot;Neues Modell hinzufügen&quot; gemacht, da es diese nicht gab, sondern über den Binden Button. Jetzt habe ich ein neues Modell zusätzlich zu dem gebundenen M1 hinzugefügt und es hat geklappt.. Denke da lag der Fehler.<br />
<br />
Also: tausend Dank an alle - Super wie prompt hier geholfen wird.<br />
<br />
Liebe Grüße <br />
Tom]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Tgilf</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2026 21:15:28 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Hilfe beim Einrichten OMP Hobby M1 V3 pro mit  VLink s.bus Empfänger für Micro Helis</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210876,210889#msg-210889</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Hallo Tom,<br />
<br />
hast du das Setup Video angeschaut und alle Schritte exakt wie dort beschrieben durchgeführt? :)<br />
<a target="_top" rel="nofollow"  href="https://uroehr.de/vtube/video/vbar-sbus-tutorial-de-s">OFS3 Setup Video VTUBE deutsch</a><br />
<br />
Bitte verifiziere, dass du auch das korrekte Template geladen hast. <br />
Einfach laden, nix verstellen, dann muss es einwandfrei funktionieren.<br />
<br />
Grüße Aaron]]></description>
            <dc:creator>Aaronheli</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2026 19:31:20 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Hilfe beim Einrichten OMP Hobby M1 V3 pro mit  VLink s.bus Empfänger für Micro Helis</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210876,210886#msg-210886</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Tgilf schrieb:<br />
-------------------------------------------------------<br />
<br />
&gt;  Die<br />
&gt; Verbindung wird über das OMP Preset hergestellt<br />
<br />
Welches denn genau? - da gibt es verschiedene...<br />
<br />
Du brauchst das für OFS3 für den M1 V3<br />
<br />
Das funktioniert auch topp  :) <br />
<br />
LG]]></description>
            <dc:creator>thomas1130</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
            <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2026 18:32:48 +0200</pubDate>
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            <title>Re: Hilfe beim Einrichten OMP Hobby M1 V3 pro mit  VLink s.bus Empfänger für Micro Helis</title>
            <link>https://www.vstabi.info/forum/read.php?47,210876,210883#msg-210883</link>
            <description><![CDATA[ Verschoben da VBasic und keine VStabi. Ist zwar ein Heli - aber nicht mit FBL von uns ;-(<br />
<br />
Ich frag mal ob Aaron von OMP da helfen kann - er hat auch die Presets gemacht.]]></description>
            <dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
            <category>VPlane/VBasic VLink</category>
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