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VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?

Posted by uragano47812 
VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 26, 2014 05:29PM
Since this part of the forum is a Café can we talk about the new vbar 6.0 that is coming out? What we will see? spinning smiley sticking its tongue out
i think the first thing is Vbar Control compatibility BUT what else? Any new features?the finger smiley

Thunder Tiger E700 Mini-Vbar
Logo 550SE Neo 6.2
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 26, 2014 06:27PM
Yes, the main change is the VBar Control compatibility, which requires a complete reorganization of the storage model. But thats something more or less hidden.
An advanced synchronization enables quicker reaction on inputs with VBar Control.

The main algortihm has some perfomance enhancements, that make the heli more stable on very hard collective inputs, and it feels smoother overall.
Additional coupling between the Gov, the Tail and the Swashplate algorithms provide better adaption i.e. if the mainrotor is overspeeding, or at bank switches.
A new size parameter combines the 5.x XXtreme, Scale and Standard Version into one.

so long ... Uli
http://www.vstabi.de
Sky
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 26, 2014 07:11PM
Where is the download link?
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 26, 2014 07:35PM
Its not finished yet, a lot of development has to be done for the PC Software, and even other setup tools.

so long ... Uli
http://www.vstabi.de
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 26, 2014 09:34PM
Sky Wrote:
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> Where is the download link?


Naja - wird wohl eher ein "shoplink" werden winking smiley

@Ulli: Vielleicht denkt ihr ja mal an eure "treuen Kunden", und bietet eine Art "Volumenlizenz" zB für 5+ Stabis oder so an smoking smiley

Müsste ja jetzt mit eurer super Registrier-Datenbank logistisch möglich sein?

LG
Thomas
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 06:36AM
Does this mean that Vcontrol will not be released until 6.0 is ready?
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 09:01AM
Hi,

no worries, they will come together, and hopefully soon. With VBar Control, you won't need the PC software or other setup tools like Control Panel, Android, remember?

grinning smiley

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 12:08PM
thomas1130 Wrote:
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> Sky Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where is the download link?
>
>
> Naja - wird wohl eher ein "shoplink" werden winking smiley
>
> @Ulli: Vielleicht denkt ihr ja mal an eure "treuen
> Kunden", und bietet eine Art "Volumenlizenz" zB
> für 5+ Stabis oder so an smoking smiley
>
> Müsste ja jetzt mit eurer super
> Registrier-Datenbank logistisch möglich sein?
>
> LG
> Thomas

Jetzt mach kein sch... ! Ist das wirklich so? Mal gut, das ich noch keine Stabis für meine anderen Helis geordert habe... Von solchen Geschäftsmodellen halte ich gar nichts. Ist schon blöd genug mit dem Kauf der Pro-Version. Ist mir auch ein Rätsel, das man die Stabis nicht nur bzw auch mit "Pro-Version" verkauft. Auf die paar Euro kommt es nicht an und haben wollen die meisten das eh.

Gruß

Felix
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 12:30PM
[sub]Hi,

Quote:
Auf die paar Euro kommt es nicht an und haben wollen die meisten das eh.


ähm, sorry, aber Dein Argument verstehe ich gerade nicht? Es geht also absolut nicht um's Geld sondern um den reinen Vorgang des Kaufens?

Hab ich das richtig verstanden?


Gruß
Jörg
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 12:54PM
Ist eben nervig, wenn man erst ein Stabi kaufen muß und danach immer wieder für irgentwelche Updates zahlen muß (wird richtig nervig, wenn kein PayPal genutzt wird). Das es auch anders funktioniert zeigen ja genügend andere Hersteller. Bei Preisen von 300€+ sollten kostenlose Updates drinne sein. Für mich ist das zumindest ein Grund auch mal andere Stabis zu testen. winking smiley Auch wenn ich die Funktionen von V-Stabi sehr schätze.

Gruß

Felix
RV
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 01:03PM
Bitte redet nicht über ungelegte Eier.

Spekulationen und Stimmungsmache a la Heli-Bildzeitung und Anmache bringt hier niemand weiter.

Die Infos folgen auf der Rotor Live.

regards (EN) / Gruss (DE)

Rainer Vetter

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Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 02:32PM
Jörg Wrote:
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> Hab ich das richtig verstanden?

Nein! böser Jörg...
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 02:52PM
Hi,

dacht ich mir cool smiley .

Gruß
Jörg
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 03:16PM
RV Wrote:
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> Bitte redet nicht über ungelegte Eier.
>
> Spekulationen und Stimmungsmache a la
> Heli-Bildzeitung und Anmache bringt hier niemand
> weiter.
>
> Die Infos folgen auf der Rotor Live.

Damit muß man aber rechnen, wenn man vorab Videos und kurze Infos gibt...
Leider kann ich nicht zur Rotor. Bin aber gespannt welche Infos dann kommen. Solang warte ich halt mit den Stabis...

Gruß

Felix
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
February 27, 2014 06:23PM
Is there and estimated release date? More than a month?
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
March 05, 2014 08:55PM
ulrich Wrote:
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> Yes, the main change is the VBar Control
> compatibility, which requires a complete
> reorganization of the storage model. But thats
> something more or less hidden.
> An advanced synchronization enables quicker
> reaction on inputs with VBar Control.
>
> The main algortihm has some perfomance
> enhancements, that make the heli more stable on
> very hard collective inputs, and it feels smoother
> overall.
> Additional coupling between the Gov, the Tail and
> the Swashplate algorithms provide better adaption
> i.e. if the mainrotor is overspeeding, or at bank
> switches.
> A new size parameter combines the 5.x XXtreme,
> Scale and Standard Version into one.

coolt can't wait winking smiley
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
April 24, 2014 05:54PM
Fly X Cell Wrote:
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> Is there and estimated release date? More than a
> month?


Any news?
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
May 08, 2014 10:29PM
Will v6 be made available as a free update for current pro users?
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
May 08, 2014 10:58PM
Currently V6 is only available and useful in combination with VBar Control. This is a technical restriction, its not because of we want to punish anybody...
Later a V6 will be available for other systems as well, buts its to early to forsee how this will look. I hope that this will clear up this summer.

so long ... Uli
http://www.vstabi.de
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
May 08, 2014 11:34PM
I don't see why the algorithm and gov changes would be a technical restriction :-)

Thank you for the quick reply.

No new firmware soon.
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
May 09, 2014 08:58AM
Hi,

development was made with regard to the VBar Control, seamless integration, and the telemetry/direct programming and safety features in this combination.

Stripping it from all the ties to VBar Control and the telemetry/direct programming parts, and stringing it to all the receiver variations plus changing the PC software, control panel software and Android software accordingly takes up a lot of hours, plus all the field testing until we can safely release it again.

If it was just replacing one formula with a different one, we would already have done it smiling smiley

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
September 17, 2014 06:46AM
Eddi, why not still make v6.x available on the silverline (without Vbar Control transmitter) with the understanding that we will not be able to use telemetry/direct programming? That's ok; we want the new/updated algorithms (control loop, etc.).

Isn't ok to have the Vbar Control features in the background as unused while installed on the silverline (without Vbar Control transmitter)? And then be able to make the same standard changes via USB cable, bluetooth module, or control panel?

Is it truly THAT integrated that the standard settings cannot be accessed via usb, etc.? Again, I don't care about telemetry, and I don't care about making the telemetry to work with other transmitter systems.
I ONLY care about the augmented control loop & algorithms.

I don't think that is too much to ask for, because right now it appears pilots are stuck with v5.3 unless they purchase the Vbar Control transmitter. I ask for a bit more versatility, please.

Quote:
Eddi E. aus G.
Stripping it from all the ties to VBar Control and the telemetry/direct programming parts, and stringing it to all the receiver variations plus changing the PC software

Thanks in advance for your reply. smiling smiley

_Sam B_
Re: VBar firmaware 6.0.1 or 6.0.x what's new?
September 29, 2014 10:49AM
Hi Sam,

there are technical limitations, otherwise we would have made it 'all for all' in the first place.

We will announce as soon as there are any news.

Kind regards

Eddi

Born to fly ...
forced to work.
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